Notes from Powell's Books: Margaret Malone & Lidia Yuknavitch in Conversation


It was a full house on Sunday, November 22nd at Powell’s City of Books, where Margaret Malone read from her lauded debut People Like You before being joined in conversation by Lidia Yuknavitch, author of The Small Backs of Children, Dora: A Headcase, and The Chronology of Water, among other brilliant books. Their 20-minute dialogue was, like Malone’s work itself, all at once funny and moving and frank and compelling, as Yuknavitch shared a number of marvelous insights about Malone’s stories and drew Malone out on some primary aspects of her work.

From his place at the back of the room, the publisher soon realized he ought to be jotting down some of what he was hearing—it was all too wonderful and well-observed to let it go by without some record.

“I don’t believe in God anymore,” said Yuknavitch at one point, “so I’ve become suspicious of the gesture of looking up. And what I love about your stories is that it’s all ground-level. Hope [in the stories] is ground-level.”

Asked about what draws her to short fiction, Malone said: “The world makes sense to me in short stories,” but acknowledged that she will probably undertake a novel before long. The comment prompted Yuknavitch (a masterful novelist herself) to state her dislike of the traditional novel form, which functions on the fallacy that human experience is substantially linear rather than fragmentary. She works to explode the novel, she said, and jokingly urged Malone to call her before committing to a novel herself.
Later, Yuknavitch brought up the subtle but important element of class-consciousness at work in People Like You: “I like it when someone writes stories that remind you that class matters. Ray Carver did that, but I like you better.”

The publisher was particularly delighted, toward the close of the conversation, to hear Yuknavitch touch on a central feature of People Like You that first drew him to Malone’s work—a distinct quality that he’s come to think of as anti-epiphany. “There are no great transcendent moments in these stories,” said Yuknavitch. “Some of the stories act like Polaroids.” Asked to comment, Malone replied: “A lot of times the big dramatic moments [in life] are small, and it’s OK for them to be small.” 

Our thanks to Lidia Yuknavitch, and to Forest Avenue Press publisher Laura Stanfill, who provided all the excellent event photos above! See Laura’s complete album of the evening on Facebook HERE.